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I actually say yes to both. Dutch was right about Bronte being a threat to the bank job, although he lied about that being his primary motivation and the bank job turned out to be a bad idea anyway. Cornwall didn't seem like a guy who ever let go of grudge and would have eventually had drowned the gang with his infinite resources even if they hadn't made too many other powerful enemies by thst point. Really though, by the time Cornwall is killed, it didn't make any difference. Dutch knew that deep down but was well into his "fuck it" stage.

Way better

Not related to the topic but Sadie bad af

I think it would be beating a dead horse (rip squirt reynolds my horse in rdr2) but i would love to see another prequel the start of the gang theres so much story they could make out of Dutch and hosea finding arthur and john. Rockstar already proved the can make a game with multiple protagonists

I know a lot of people in the gang didn't like Miss Grimshaw, but the fact that no one truly second guessed themselves in that scene really bothers me. Like, i get that shit is tense, but micah made the first move, and then Dutch gets on John for shooting at him. Bro, you literally were complicit in what could be considered the closest thing to a mother figure that John and Arthur ever had. It feels very rushed to me.

Overthinking, No Micah, No Blackwater Massacre, no Rat. Think what you want to, Micah, is why Dutch turned. Nope, whether or not John and Sadie showed, Dutch was there to kill Micah. Dutch knew John and Sadie were there to kill Micah. Sometimes there is nothing between the lines to read.

micah aint really thy complex tbh just a selfish person. dutch is the complex one

ma-lev-uh-lon listen to the ship.

John didn’t really have an option to be nice in RDR. He had to kill to protect his way of life, protect his family. He had no choice but to be brutal because he was sent to kill what used to be his family by a group who didn’t care if he lived or died. John was decent to the people who weren’t “in the game.” He didn’t really hurt people who were outside of his mission, unless they got in the way.

"democracy officer? Yeah, this is him. The tratior."

Is the daughter mentioned in rdr2?

Dutch is human too. I agree, Dutch shot Micah and left the wealth in his own redemption for his grief of author......his son and loyal brother RIP Authur

It should have been Damian. Or if you've seen the Batman Beyond film than you'd know why it would've made sense if it was Tim. Just anyone but Jason. Jason's the Red Hood, he should've been brought in as the Red Hood. I'm just saying the Arkham Knight could have been someone else and still had made sense.

What if Micah was never exposed as a rat by Milton? Would Arthur and John have escaped in the final gang mission?

Ross isn't cunning at all lmao just a government goon happy to topple anyone that isn't him

No matter what is Dutch wouldn’t have made it out of black water the gang wouldn’t have ended where they did but aurther would probably have most likely still got TB from Thomas downes but Hosea wouldn’t have been stranded in gurma bc he wouldn’t have done the robbery I think he would he robbed the train and got out but aurther wouldn’t have died as soon just my thoughts

What I think would have been a better reveal, if it was Timm Drake, and they just hinted at current robin existing throughout the game. He has been put of and almost babied as a sidekick since he became robin. He had to leave anything he had before just to be babied and told to stay at home while bats was fighting crime.

I'd go on and say the main villain of the story is not him, it's Dutch as he was in the first game. Or, his delusion, to be exact. That wet dream of Tahiti is basically killed the chance for all of the gang to get out, not Micah's ratting. Him being stupidly stubborn forced everyone to face their karma.

I dont know what's wrong with Milton. He just did his job and he was quite honorable. He gave them multiple chances to surrender.

"Civilization may be dull, but the alternative is hell."

I don't even watch/play Batman but now I wanna play some Batman games. Batman is cool. Batman.

I feel like the story of the Arkham Knight should have taken a little more priority over Scarecrow in a video game called Batman: the Arkham Knight

There is an interaction right at the very beginning of Chapter 2, like right when you first arrive at horseshoe overlook and even before doing the saloon mission with Lenny, where if you walk past Dutch he will say something along the lines of "I think you will betray me one day Arthur, you're the type." I am on my second playthrough and he literally said it to me right after I upgraded his damn tent, I was dumbstruck. I think Dutch went mad long before the events of the game. Probably after taking in Micah and botching the Blackwater heist. He was just able to mask it until Beaver Hollow with the help of Hosea.

I was blown away when Dutch walked away. And then tried too gaslight Arthur, the small bit of sympathy I had left was absolutely gone Dutch was 100% ready too leave his "Son" too die

Arthur did what he did because he was deeply loyal to his family - Dutch and the gang. John shows the same loyalty to his family - Abagail and Jack.

Let's not forget that the Pinkertons are "Technically" the good guys. Dutch and the gang have robbed and killed for decades. Milton was more than justified going after them. We only see the gang as heros because the story wants us too. Its not until chapter 6, when Arthur and John decide too change

I just did the botched robbery w Lenny and didn't even care about the outcome. WHAT THE FKK MAN

Ain't it crazy everyone hates Micah but when their family acts just like him they never call them out 😂

I always think what if Cornwall actually gave Dutch the vessel and ten thousand dollars? So he didn't have to die and Dutch sucessfully made it to Tahiti

Scarecrow is not only my favourite Arkhamverse villain but one of my favourite video game villains ever. He was already frightening in Arkham Asylum, and then Arkham Knight ramped it up even further. His way of controlling people through their fears is just peake villainy. His intelligence, deformed appearance, spine chilling voice, and sadistic personality, and the fact that he even gets under Batman's skin are also what makes him one of the greatest antagonists ever

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Dutch and Micah are secret lovers just like Dutch and Colm O'Driscoll